dickerson fly rod tapers

You can draw a straight line between the tip and the butt of any taper. (Chris Obuchowski), Hexrods library seems to suggest otherwise. 6 wt 0.0752 (Harry Boyd), In Dickerson-speak, does a 7613 have a 14 on the butt to 13 on the tip or a 13 on the butt to 12 on the tip stepdown? The slope of the taper of this rod is .014/5" or a B-8.4 (taking the average drop from 80" thru 0"). 60 0.242 A longer rod would help with the line control, but the drifts tend to be fairly short to rising fish. (John Channer). The other issue is mandrels and they just don't come in 1/128 sizes. 5 .326 .168 (Robin Haywood). Dickerson R.W. (Greg Reeves). (John Channer), Well, the #13 Payne ferrules that I've mic'd had a female ferrule internal diameter of .203" and the step-down internal diameter of .1875". Straight tapers are just that, nobody needs to develop them, as if they did they wouldn't be straight anymore. Jim Schaaf. (David Zincavage), I wouldn't turn down a couple of each for crackers. All that stops me is time, I get about six weeks a year unencumbered by business or meetings and I'm booked up to 2010! 55 0.2275 I have a tough time roll casting over about 65' with any rod, no matter how long or limber. This will be three tips (light, heavy and SLT), three butts (light, heavy, SLT), a parabolic and a hinge. The tip tapers are the only redeeming feature of his designs, and now you tell me they were not deliberate, I'll burn my copy of "The Book" immediately, at least I shall be spared tolerating toadying references to "Garry" when ever (very seldom, in fact) I refer to it! But if you really like Dickerson tapers (i sure do) then getting a good maker to whip up his version of that taper while using his personal cosmetics would be my first choice. That's not a lot to ask is it? If you want to adjust for a different varnish assumption, or if you want to interpolate differently, then our actual measurements are there for you (or anyone, of course) to do so. It's all pulled through by hand. to use it on trout other than the Yough, Savage River reservoir and some lakes. I get tired of hearing that kind of comment. Over the time I have made rods. Can you direct me to where I can find more information on this? 0.288 (Bob Norwood). Just basic principles that have been around for years. (Mark Dyba), Okay, to continue the discussion, what are they, and why? The butt was merely an extension pole to keep the tip further from the ground. In case you didn't get the taper before, here it is: 0.066 Common sense tells me to leave the middle of the taper . (John Silveira). I'll give you a bit of background on the question. 80 0.3 I would agree that one system is not all encompassing and I agree with the selection of evaluating criteria you outlined. That said, even this quite powerful taper isn't sufficient to handle large deer hair bass bugs or heavily weighted 2/0 streamers. Somehow the "D" was either left off by me in the original posting or was lost in translation to David's site. Adding material to the butt section will stiffen and add power. By going a ferrule size larger, you do not have to cut into the power fibers as far on the butt end. For those of you that have built this rod, does it flex into the beginning of the handle? Daryll Whitehead would be another good choice. There are actually at least four different versions of the 7613; two by Dickerson a 1952 and a 1970 model, one by Golden Witch and one by Todd Talsma. 0.350 15 .128 .274 20 .245 .130 Part of the midwest cadre of noted builders, he built rods from the 1930's onward and was especially known for his fast two-piece rods. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), I'm grateful to you for that point because a recent post referred to straight taper Garrisons and I wonder if he meant straight stress "curves". If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. All tapers are based solely or partially on the combinations of these basic deviations from the SLT. Station Diameter Dickerson 8615 - 8.5ft 2pc 7wt Posted by Gary Lohkamp,15 Jan 1997. First, no one casts the same. Assuming this to be thus you have made adjustments so small that they are mostly below normal error, and if we allow a factor for variation in natural materials then the exercise becomes entirely futile except as an exercise in applied physics! The last 7613 is a version by Todd Talsma, it is the strongest one a 6/7 wt similar to the 1952 model. It's a 7 wt too but being a little shorter is easier on the arm and shoulder due to the shorter lever arm length. 1 wt 0.0540 Short cased and portable. ChristmasMissives - ChatRoom - PhotoGalleries - LineConversions - TheJourney - ExtremeRodmaking - Rodmaker'sPictures - Donate - Store. In fact, as the requirements of a stream rod are very simple, this is what we do. Then the part of the ferrule that fits on the bamboo inside the male slide 'stepped down' to .187" ID, or 12/64. The trouble is, that's all it does! Dickerson 8014 Fred Bears Rod, 2606 -1. There should be 20 measurements not 19. This rod belonged to rodbuilder Tim Bedford. The only limit you have in this process, you can't change the tip diameter because you would be changing the line weight of the rod. 20 .143 .292 by wefishcane 05/08/09 02:55, Post Actually I feel an increase of .030 would be sufficient. If you read this Bob, I would be interested to know how you choose your tip dimension and rise? How would you characterize their casting characteristics? But all right is not a euphemism for excellent. The Dickerson step down ferrule concept I need to know. Help from forum members would be welcomed. While I have never cast an original (I think only a few were ever made by Mr. Dickerson) I have made a 4-5. Obviously this has to be judicious, as there comes a point where the taper tends more towards an adjacent standard line weight. (Robin Haywood). Examples would be different techniques or methods used by restorationists and makers. Cross Rods. I would be interested to hear Bob Norwood's approach on this issue. Manchester, VT 05254 This gives a quick, accurate impression as to what type of taper the rod is made from (straight, parabolic, compound, etc.) Very Good condition. Springcreek, the 8013 you have listed. (Chris Obuchowski). But I imagine that high output builders didn't have every rod turn out the same for whatever reason. They look very representative to what I have seen. How drastically do you think it would change the action if I pushed the swell out in front of the handle? The taper I used was from "The Lovely Reed." 0.232 Fast Dickerson 7613 - 7'6" 2pc Stress curves are an integral part of this process and have to be evaluated. All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide. if you were to use this type of ferrule, you might choose one that has a 13/64ths opening on the top, and a 14/64ths opening on the bottom. I brought my recently acquired 861711D to Luray, Virginia to show/share with Chris at his rod shop open house some years ago. Both tapers conform to the shape broadly called parabolic and thus will have the shortcomings that all rods of this misconceived taper share. Gift of Heidi Bedford, Yearc. Strong tip; butt has flex area from 45" to 80" then a butt swell at 80". Yes you do have the seemingly limitless variation of moving the point or points and amount of material added or removed along the rod length. (Lowell Davis), The 8013 is definitely NOT a longer version of the 7613. I sold one to a co-worker who is a streamer guy and he fishes it with a full sinking 5 wt line and is happy with it. I don't disagree with any one here in fact I think you are all correct. Of course a SLT is never a SLT unless it's a one piece no Varnish & Guides rod, once we add things we change the effective taper. 65 0.248 134403 I will let Bob speak to the numbers and how they were derived. Tom Smithwick. The Paul Young Perfectionist. For any thing else but roll casting or keeping a very finite weight of DT in the air, it's useless. Parabolic is a marketing term and thus entirely meaningless in discussions on rod design. I hope this is for step down ferrule. The action, for those who are more familiar fishing graphite rods, is quite easy to get used to. Chris' rod is also an 861711D. (Will Price), You can adapt the taper that calls for a step down by putting a slight swell at the male ferrule end of the taper so that a super Z or super Swiss ferrule will work properly. Tel: 802-362-3300, Summer 50 0.213 I have limited the list as practical to tapers which are not obviously taken from Hexrod.net, in RodDNA, or in contemporary books such as Howells, Gould or Mauer. by cwood 05/08/09 02:51, Post (Robin Haywood). He was known for using only one or two strips from a culm, a time-consuming and expensive way to build rods. This in itself is a very interesting exercise. (Will McMurrey), Just very briefly, a Castle Connell taper is a good example, where you have a curious reverse taper in the upper part of the lower half of the rod. I have been working with Bob Norwood's taper program, using it to derive a basic set of reference tapers. The 1st station on the butt section is NOT .214, it should be.208@0, then as follows: .214@5 by Jim 05/08/09 01:45, Post It looked fairly thin. Are there specific numbers at the ferrule for, say, an 8013 where a 14/64's ferrule is used? . I would describe the rod action as very powerful, as you would expect from most Dickersons. Bill Wara. Consider this, the aspect of looking at tapers as deviations from straight lines is most valid when you are designing from numbers and not from stress or deflection. Conversely, the .202 is at the low end of fit for a 14/64. Ralph Tuttle did the actual spreadsheet work. It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. (Robin Haywood). Contact us to learn more about how we can help! And this set of conditions is very narrow. 90 0.296 157251. I think of it as an 8013G. And well worth the little time it takes to execute. That's not how they're made, see my previous post, or get a set of old time Leonard, Payne, Dickerson or anyone else's, other than cheep H-I or Montague's which had a necked down female, and measure them, the bamboo opening on both kinds of ferrules is the same on the male as it is on the female. There are some differences between their tapers and line sizes, however they are all somewhat medium fast. An 861711 would be an 8 1/2' three piece, with the butt-to-mid ferrule being a size 17, and the mid-to-tip ferrule being a size 11. All sections are full length and straight. Take a virtual tour of our terminal and view our campus map. No question my friend John Pickard is the way to go for a Dickerson reproduction. 40 .200 under grip It didn't make since to me but went ahead and planed the butt section the way it was listed. Step Down debate again. Here's a classic Winston from the Hexrod taper archive. In fact, I had great trouble casting the bloody thing. It's really funny that a True Arc turns out to be a parabolic taper (how drunk were those guys?). (Tim Pembroke). (Will Price), Is not 7'6'' a bit short for a five weight? For that matter, how big does the swell actually have to be to stop the action of the rod? (Mark Wendt), I am wanting to build a Dickerson 7012 but cant find a taper that accounts for the step downs. I've built this one which was posted to the rodmaker's listserv years ago. (Paul Blakley), I have a taper for the Dickerson 7613 and am a little confused. The 6611 has a swelled butt unlike many versions I've seen and is an especially sweet rod. Sorry! Not that I very much care, these people have a perfect right to their willful ignorance. Unknown, so I would hesitate to speculate. (Robin Haywood). Used but very good serviceable condition. 20 .140 .298 Special Note on this rod/ All the snake guides on the tip are 2/0 and the mid are 1/0 with a 8 stripper on butt section. The second you deviate from a straight line, no matter how you want to describe it, the fact that there was a straight line is irrelevant. One of our most recognizable rod models with a deep flamed color and crisper action. 50% due upon order placement; balance due upon completion. 10 0.101 154505 Can someone explain what this means and what number should I use. the grip so I did some interpolation. (Jimmy Chang), I have made rods using both tapers. The taper on David Ray's site is an 861711D. And why not? (Tom Peters), 0.066 This is because the laws of physics don't tend to change much. The 8013 is an 8' 0", 2/2, 5wt., 4.35 oz. If you want a starting point then make the rate of taper 20 thousandths per inch and hollow build to 50 or 60% of original wall thickness. I'm not familiar with Tom Fulk's true arc taper. Dies are not so easy to make that he would have probably have made an entire offset set. Harry Boyd ----------- Harry Boyd http://www.canerods.com maker@canerods.com Aransas.clarks Guide Posts: 301 The 7613 is a wonderfully versatile taper, the rod is light in the hand, and is at home casting sizes #6 Muddlers to #16 Dry flies. Nice taper but you may feel the large flex area on long casts with a 8 WF line. Inevitably, if part of the strain is caused by rings ferrules and varnish, as it must be, then its resultant effect will detract from the weight of line that rod will cast. )really love this taper. (Reed Guice), Dickerson used the ferrule sizes in the rod to denote both the ferrule and the number of pieces in the rod. I really must stir myself to come and fish them, it's time that's the enemy. One of my favorite rods is a linear taper with a "slope" of .290/100". My 2 cents. There are two Perfectionists on Hexrod. November - May by ShenRods 05/08/09 01:54, Post I just fished them both side by side on the Green River. The rest of the shown increase is, in my opinion, just for looks. Consider this one if your maker plans on using Super Z ferrules. 35 .188 .332 45 0.186 158623 Stress curves are the only tool I have seen that give you a visual image of exactly what you have changed and the consequences of that action. My original point, with which you took issue, was: I just wanted to make the point that there's a difference between a rod with a straight taper and one with a straight, flat stress curve. Quite a disparity. Did I just read something about someone saying Dickerson rods are outclassed by today's makers? I haven't tried a WF6 but suspect it'd be about perfect. I like to look at the taper itself and how it compares to a straight line taper, the stress curve, the tip deflection under loading, the shape the rod assumes under maximum loading, the rod weight and the center of gravity. 7 wt 0.0790 Garrison's are straight except for the last 15 inches which he "fudged" to accommodate one of the standard tip top sizes. The mid sections are very different. Must have been a real thrill to cast Banjos' rod. This rod has some meat in the butt section and seems to mend a fair bit of line with ease. I deducted .005 for the varnish. This is a set of 13-14/64 step down ferrules. CANE RODS Tips & Tapers by Ray Gould has another version that averages out the step down. Just looking for a taper that accommodates the step down ferrule nicely. 48 .224 .375, I don't know how Banjo arrived at the measurements under the grip and reel seat. (Larry Swearingen), Sorry about the double question, original question appeared lost in cyberspace. (Robin Haywood), Is 8'4" a bit long for a 4 wt.? In practice most people these days do not take well to these technically correct ideas, preferring a slope to the straight line, giving higher strain levels near the tip, i.e. I have fished some pretty big water with this rod and it has served me very well. (Chris Obuchowski). The most interesting rods have a distinctive type of action, and a particular form and design, which is distinctive, and which seems to express a particular maker's vision. You are correct, this is just a way of evaluating the effects of adding or subtracting material from different areas along a rods length. The stepped down portion of the male is 2/64's smaller than the sleeve. Except that they are US rated and thus #5's! 0.120 I've fished mine from a drift boat on the Green river and had great success. Why do you think a7'6" rod is short for a #5 ? (Matthew French), Different rods, the 8014 is a true 6wt, the 8014G (G stands for guide) is a heavier rod, a point and shoot, no false cast, lay out a ton of line type rod. You can design a flyrod, racing bicycle, airplane or motorcar to do one thing superbly with ease. All rights reserved. .212 is way too big for a 13/64, it's well into the 14/64 fit range. by cutthroattroutnm 05/09/09 16:50, Post by Morten 06/12/16 08:37, Post 9 wt 0.0890. As to my question about the ferrules is, your rods say, e.g. Mystic Outdoors is the premier manufacturer of high-performance fly fishing equipment for new anglers and seasoned veterans alike. All 5wt with identical terminal tip and butt dimensions. .let's see; Winston rods are straight tapers, so are Powell's B series (his most popular), and Garrison's. 0.088 .288@30 Just a topic to ponder on these slow summer days. Lyle Dickerson oft written about little powerhouse of a rod. 0.178 A lot goes into crafting a bamboo fly rod and here you can learn more about our approach. Regarding the similarities and differences between the 7'6" and 8' Dickerson's. It was considerably more effortless to use than my colleagues 8'6'' to 9' supposedly #4 carbons. I would love to have the opportunity to cast my perfectionist (or any one of the several I've made for people) against any 7 1/2-foot 5-weight of his choice and compare line speed, distance, accuracy, or any other criterion he would like. The 7613 Golden Witch version, a 6 wt, has a somewhat softer tip than the 8013 getting stronger toward the lower tip. If you want a rod that feels like a SLT then you must compensate for the ferrules and varnish and guides by adding the proper amount of bamboo at the correct points on the taper. His total production was fewer than 1,000 rods. (Lew) Parks. Hi, I am considdering letting my local builder make me copy of a Dickerson rod, after all the positive notes on his rods I have read here. (Robin Haywood), This would be very easy, but would impact on other desirable qualities. Lyle Dickerson (Michigan) Made 2 of the heavier one. (Bret Reiter), I call this one a seven too. I'm not sure why you don't like Garrison, nor his tapers, but you can have your own opinions as can everyone else. 0.308 It's why I'm fussy about ring weight on the tips of rods below #6. Dickerson 8015 Guide Special, 2607 - 5. If you want to make one as a sort of standard then try a rate of taper of 13.5 thousandths per station, it gives a Gould rating of 270 which is a useful point about which to have a conversation with yourself about what you think is medium fast and what you think is fast. 0.256 Pt 0 is the butt side of the strips. I am assuming this is an unvarnished rod. I've cast the original and it is one strong casting rod and deserving of the Guide Special nomenclature. Obviously, custom tapers take a little longer to develop and build. (Jerry Foster), For some applications, like fishing dries from a drifting boat, it could be even a bit short. (Will Price), I have noticed several folks mention the Dickerson 8014. (Henry Mitchell), In Dickerson-speak, it would be a size 13 on the butt, and a 12 on the tip. Spurred into rodmakingby losing his job in the great depression, Lyle Dickerson would go on tobecome one of the masters of the craft. Chris likes it for Smallmouth on the Shenandoah. Know what to expect when you visit LAN, so you can feel prepared for your upcoming trip! (John Channer), I have never been able to describe to anyone else how a rod feels to them. Right, I've printed that off and made a brief study. 7613: 7'6" 2/2 5 wt. As you got more line out the rod would flex deeper into the shaft. Why? 20 0.131 154180 Acclaimed as one of the finest rod tapers ever conceived. 70 0.271 About a week ago I was fishing the hex hatch on a certain small Wisconsin stream for the first time in many years, with a 7.5 ft 5wt, and actually wished I had a much shorter rod, given the overhanging trees. 30 0.155 CSE makes and sells this kind of "step-down" ferrule, from tubing, as Dickerson did. The part of the ferrule that fits over the bamboo on the tip section (male ferrule) had the same exact inside diameter of .221" INITIALLY! the 3pc tapers were appropriated from other makers so it does not always hold true in that case. So a 13 size ferrule has a female and male sleeve that is .203 and a male insert that is .1718 or 11/64's. Winston Rods. More info. OK, the rod was a Paul Young Perfectionist. What does the taper of a rod that roll cast well look like? I have also noticed the mention of a Dickerson 8014GS. The stepdown in the male is from a 14/64 ID where the ferrule initially goes over the bamboo and steps down to 12/64 ID for the bamboo inside of the male slide. That is all I did! 0.266 65 0.2565 As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. I have just finished reading your post regarding Straight Line Tapers and Straight horizontal Stress Curves and I must say that you as well as robin really do need a refresher course in Stress Curves. 0.360 (Jay Hake). They turn into 5 wts at about 60 feet, up till there, they are are 6 wts. Don't you find short rods a problem on those splendid Yorkshire chalk streams? If you look at the individual changes every five inches, no they are not always .014, but the mean and mode are .014". If you were to design rods using a visual representation of it's deflection then deviation from a straight line doesn't matter. 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